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Live from the double BYE a piece to be using in Pittston Pennsylvania. Welcomed sharing recovery. Straight talk on today's struggles on addiction and triumphs of recovery. Recovery is possible. Sharing your recovery is sponsored by a clear brook treatment center serenity a luncheon attorney Jason medio Lee and our stone recovery center. We welcome your calls with questions or comments who call 5708300. And I made this. Or 1804370098. He's expressed on the show or not necessarily those of Entercom communications staff management or sponsors during your hosts Suzanne Kelly and Jack crop. Hello and welcome to sharing recovery. We're very happy chose to spend time with us this afternoon I'm Suzanne Kelly and I enjoyed my fellow host Jack crop. Who recently celebrated nineteen years or recovery. Sharon recovery is to show that deals with how help and healing. Because we know firsthand their recovery is possible but we also know too often does silence equals death. Now today we welcome Pamela night to sharing recovery. Pamela has her own story her own journey and her mission today. She's founder of stigma kills. And welcome Pamela. Thank you so much for manager of the afternoon. Thank you for agreeing. We spent some time learning a little bit about chewing your story and you know one of the things that is is really terrific care Pamela is that you know you ear focused on you know stay in my kills. Because we hear so much abouts. Addiction. Abuse. You know being targeted told tour only certain socio economical group for those who are less educated and those who can't get a job for those. Who are generally less then and you know first hand that's not necessarily the case. Exactly addiction you know it doesn't discriminate it affects all walks of life. All and I really do I just I'm a firm believer that if it's a statement because. Everybody has the future but simply turn them on anything that you words drug addict and that's really something that I think you know I'm trying to. Changed the way people. View. Too yeah drug addiction and in general I I think to myself you know all the time to think about it. If I can't sir I'm people I would go to like the work that I get my family and I get my friend I would help them. And and returning I don't have dinner I perhaps lauer that card. Full and take it one step further there may be. Healthy it would be a cure for me okay now how somebody here who are gigantic. You know is silence at first you know I never did anything they're gone wrong in your light up got back in your face that's like your car every code are. Try telling your. Here are on. In your child. Close knit friends you may be right. The month ever for cops say she and trying. Sitting down they are very good support and tell them that in Vegas sun. Had an issue and you birdies and treatment. And you want to talk to them because they hang out all the time and it's. It really awful and it kind of got my Charles error we haven't really good developments. And that's about it they don't even care to reach back out because they don't be officiated he anymore. Pamela I am glad you're here with us today can you share your story tell us how you've got to this point. What what happened how your life that brought you here. I am you know I ate got addicted to pain pills com. And initially but in Hawaii. I hurt my back really bad I am given a bite it and they never had it before I probably should. In my early thirties and let me tell you what I felt like simple woman I mean I knew instantly like my brain remember the weight. It maybe PLC and I. I tell them my parents the post hilt but he now actually in China like if we were going out I would rather. Topic you count rather than had a few drinks and then I started talking shopping I mean I think he'd fit eat and I was very high functioning I worked in I told. And I continued and he now. It was I tried if you had thought they let that first. I need they get off the IR doctor I met. And again while hours. You know the withdrawal symptoms start checking in in Philly gets a little inch and your. The end I eighty I play what reality value like the fifteenth that said like you might jump by your body and I couldn't read though maybe forty Aaron and my what I game I would dice back in and I McDyess back in partnership. And mound but I theater really about it you know I was fighting on the street I was taking money out of our business which I couldn't get enough to keep up my habit people ought to realize it is quite a fatty when I'm there is no more. So what we are now feeling but feeling but it's been out does not recreational anymore. You know he's he's an honest Ariel normal like I was picking them to follow Obama because. All I knew what every time I tried it was awful but I didn't want to anybody you know I mean look like a deep dark secrets. And what started out making me felt so happy an won't jedi each I was slowly but surely withdrawing com. I had their populations that sort but everyone because Miley now. I would I had better fashion line fashion I counting my Copland I and a map where thy getting get them again. But once again because that they can I do now what I am your friend can no option. But then it started cutting getting really ugly and I was nodding out weary you know IP. You know there are accounts and I would be. Fully present in the and I would not be bearing down my may I could have really bagged me saying I you know I'd be very. Yeah happy and then I would be really nasty and I tell my ailing tacking on allied. Just said OK I knew I had my day off in full in January I am doing that and I didn't even think to look at not far I didn't know much about it. I mean I belonged. Cadets dead. I hate what the drug I thank my did not want to. You know mid eighty S and non OK let you know I knew I was Saturday and the fighting I gave everything I had Saturday and are able fully informed. I Monday I was growing up I had you have diarrhea and then South Beach inflate your brain is so crazy. I think it one that you hours. I would give me who died I was down like four and on. He earlier. My body of my eight act by by the eighth I had let it rest for played against about it he couldn't get comfortable felt shall. I'm back for the Wednesday calling it now she did and when ban on Wednesday if I think it. If somebody was telling me I was dying I wouldn't believe that. Had never been put it in my life hadn't showered. And my attic spring training get in close on. And see what you can get and my daughter came over and now the two hours. Swimming around you know what's going on mom you now tell me to talk to me I know something's wrong I just. To contain it I just and then finally I get a Fella can't stop. And then I'm addicted to paint ball and home. I can't like RA and action and then my daughter came over and should get going against you or to rehab and I'm like mine are just couldn't even putt I had around it. But all you like that. It was a huge weight of that off my heart and I wanted to get better and making your rehab Matt Albers and I'm going with colony in case I was born and Joseph were only know anything about and that evening I got the airport I was so weak and the court meanwhile Sharon what you mean there and so I went to Florida where all you are they telling their and that I think he talked mean at this point I knew I needed help felt. Pounds but you know I have to tell you look up that morning. So they don't handicapped ones are they got what are they never thought about what I had done in my body I. You don't think about that they vineyard active addiction which we're very selfish people don't think about our image I mean what I took a shower and walked out of my bedroom animal. And then I like free room. There with my family. Never once that I think about them and I can see that thing was scared. And I really felt like I had let everybody down. He got on the plane all the way down in fact I think Reno. I wasn't broken woman but I wanted to get better. So I am a treatment and everything everything I see you can. You know Mehdi you can't get better would be mad at me detox. I usually attract your brain so crazy but the hardest part is dealing with the emotional. Side and XOK. Why why I. Yeah cam we're gonna take a quick break we want to thank our sponsors but hold that side because we're very interested to arm in talking more about what it was like for you to during this process will be right back a guy. Thank since 1972. Clear that treatment center has been providing successful treatment for those suffering from substance abuse clear Brooks medical program provides round the clock care and treatment. From a licensed and specialized medical team. They're bricks approach to addiction is largely based on the proven practices other alcoholics anonymous and pastoral services are available to patients. Seeking spiritual guidance. Call Claybrook today at 5702602600. Jason met the only Izzy personally injury and criminal defense lawyer prepared to fight for you. Attorney met he only has an exceptional record of defending the rights of those arrested for do you lie in drug offenses. He also represents victims of tractor trailer an automobile accidents. Premises liability product defects and work related accidents. If you are a loved one has been arrested or injured call attorney Mehdi only at 5709611616. Arched stone recovery center of the palm beaches provides addiction treatment senator within a small personal community kind. For nearly two decades arch tone has helped thousands suffering from alcohol and chemical dependency is. Recover and regain control of their lives are stones medical. Clinical and support staff. Provide the highest level. A professional treatment and individualized care color storm recovery sooner 8558992292. Serenity lunches in safe structured supervise sober living community. Three young men located in the beautiful mountains of Susquehanna county Pennsylvania. Serenity lodge has perfected. The missing peace between addiction treatment and real life serenity lies teaches how to use the principles recovery along with age appropriate life skills. Call serenity lunch today at five cents and 06508205. Welcome back to sharing recovery straight talk once and he struggles on addiction and triumphs of recovery. Recovery is possible we welcome your calls for. All 570830098. Or 1804370098. When you were euros us Suzanne Kelly in check problem. And we are back thank you for joining us for sharing recovery our guest today is Pamela night. Pamela is actually calling in from a Merrill Lynch ends up or discussing her journey her mission. She's the founder of stigma kills on Pamela I have a question if we can back up a little bit it's art you actually when you recovery. You said that you worked for school what was your position at a school. I'm working that specialize department would be you know kids that. Really did keep me grounded and much again like that I want hot act at an outside the normal and the anti there was nothing but turmoil in my life you know. And I found out from LA was it something he can do. The Fed are might add that the federal Medical Leave Act yes alms. And go back. You know I get up and laughed and went this and they actually were the ones that it when I was there I had no idea because. It go home enemy in Al Derek don't think they're direction bike. When you have cancer I don't care type of insurance you have there and he could be your that you say your good trip when it comes yes there. It's a whole the whole different ballgame your e-book that you don't know much about C don't know what to jail. So basically do you have any idea how long it took when you just started to use for pain I mean you're you know you had a prescription for I know wasn't like you just went up and scored asked right no industry in the beginning. You can use cedar tipping point when it was no longer only for paint it to happen relatively quickly. I thought yeah I think within two years I I kept it but you know people are guaranteed in the ER. Sabrina good threshold so we have to be aware what what weathered what apple might make you feel like really great real lack. Into a one man one pill works for awhile you dame we have increased it we popped it up to get act. Feeling right so I think it. But not thinking you're really getting at is it your Dick in fact I I was I would totally you know I hacked or have them to note. And act though scary and you high because. He did they get to play in either of your life. You know you don't think of the way out of it. Right Pamela point oh like to make on the show is set. People in every walk of life are going through today just what you have described you went through. So you re going to work. Every day of the week around other teachers other people just go and you were taken painkillers and they had no clue today. Exactly they had no quotes correct I love warm up bright eyed and that might you know I was very high functioning as. I like to rain on the outside but it might in inside my my green but just. Turmoil and they don't really tired at that end you know because I if it became my dirty secret you know hiding them and buying them and you know going to get a park I spent so much Ty name. Keeping up Chinese heat I have. I have an app is you know it could be a long time to really come to terms with that I had a lab and on to become my number one of my life right thank you let them on and I think I'm. You're addiction becomes your job lose then yeah it back it's it's so much more it's not recreation is not going to a concert or basketball games it's not going out to dinner with family friends. My job now has. Drugs region from recreational immediately job. Where I know every dealer and careers I know which doctors and give me a prescription and I know which arm she's I gotta remember that I go to pharmacy being today are we ideas are gonna go pharmacy doubts now regulation going to be. And yeah I actually hit. At and you did that do at Kansas or Gina school with special children with special needs kids their truck driver doing that today. There are lawyers going met today. And our people under the bridge doing that today. And hero doesn't get that addiction affects the whole spectrum of the world we live in today. And and we absolutely. We need this program stigma chills. Tony will join your brandy Grimes or all trying to make. We audience understand. That you don't have to be embarrassed that you don't have to sit at home saying. I'm ashamed of this I can't tell anyone else because that's what's killing people. By the hundreds and thousands every day. Addiction in the deep in the mental illness and that's niche in that is what I'm trying to F the word and trendy hair and bad. Mean how can it be willing. To open up and popped and I feel like until we really start educating parents and parents are able to come. Or are you shouldn't be a shame you know I have a top I have a cat I have a dime he's got to about the thank you lack at the hardest thing to veto it as a parent. You it seemingly seeming like I say you know on the right I'll like to know if it back which it signed a born with that scene. And you know what I W all the time might be RD circuit lock aren't fun journey that. I am not ashamed of myself and then I eat some good things about my son Mike Bennett that he now should he attempt at Yankee it. Aren't good they see march. He's a human being and I had a unique. You know what Pamela we had I'm very sad situation two weeks ago. Where locally here in Eastern Pennsylvania we have a sixteen year old Cy Young girl. And GODs she died. Danced less than two weeks later her mother and indeed indicted yet. Oh so so are we have situations here where we are seeing that it is they feel only. I'm trend it is happening in families. And you have to remember. Black eye on us I guess you remember the addiction is a family do these are thin and it using salt Cameron propping your walking on a show up. And so I'm thinking in your mind is the parent. It's gonna get better and get an apparent after realized you know. We apparent over our job to teach a week and that they bench and by how do you. It is the deal I mean I want you might make you do it intervention on the am I being there any other siblings should all and a father did you know the that guy won't agree to college he'd get going to take indicate that they need to have a track. Explain to the mom why is now when Cummins said they're ready to go we have to act quick you know it it kind of bold. Full treatment I'm in the end while the if someone comes from behind me and it's like I mean crappy year what the young girl isn't six scrape. Crying telling me like I am so scary to I don't they think by parents fight but. You know caught the tell me not to tell anybody that we've marking and and I kind bench think about it this girl is. So young kids he's not supposed to say anything to anybody and she start like I'm so we have. I hope they only startling and you know it physically speaking most chance overdose and die in it in their home. Guess they do and you have to shame and a shame kills in the silence kills in the Stanley Cup finals but you know so. Let's go back to win you I'm wearing recovery how many times I'm did you actually go through the recovery process on how long you need men in recovery. Almost four year. And I I was glad to be able to go to a place where. Everything has been played if I wanted to get it and let me go back yet you know. Dealing with the emotional Friday that you got it that they have it and you really have to act itself. What are my brining in coming from because I had been running and numbing from my wife. And I can so tell you I mean. I have had a great life and I would almost I'd maybe 24 days in my treatment MI there put that in me you know telling anyone and that typically speaking a lot in in a party be gotten one in downer but then he played offense should it be jump start throwing up is stopped me. Yeah I can get better and I got really like. It meaning that I think what you talking about this is that people are even tell me he got a great life. McNamee anybody past trauma in their life and they promised this French bank you don't have to start talking about. Things that happen. That really bothering you and you really never talked about it because. I wouldn't diaper and that's my feeling I was always the one that from a thank you happy how I I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine I never like talk about it right. And there might there that they aren't you think about it night and come back and I knew I knew there are things that happened along the way you know my journey of life but. It's hard to bring it wrapped in Allen and I can I remember going and thank Welsh you what is like I have a really good relationship with the person now. And yeah I kind of like a darn under the bus I can everything. I'd that was really the start of my healing. I hate. It never really get out there but keep our eye on them but what I like I would rather than there ever again ever felt like on your week if you go to therapy but let me tell you why. There is a bad thing in the world to talk to someone here is nothing about your life your family your connection. And he has the weapons are doing that I I would healing but Pakistani when I was a broken woman still and a young girl came after me and thank you wanna come on look at an overhaul would be I mean I had no clue with what I would like. I did in nothing much and she explained it to me since I could step down you know it's like she. He is dubbed accountability and not trying to achieve randomly inch gap curfew and should be a neat thing if you ninety meaning the 98 and you know I went to look at the plate and I knew my heart that if I went back. Where that point because I was still broken and even that your family is just the court just dumped. I needed it I myself a support system. Of people that had more time and I get I needed to be surrounded with people in the recovery each. I'm bet that new recovery so. I get I I what I wanted to overhaul I became teen mom to probably nineteen. Yea younger girls they've really got to know. You know. They brought the heroin addiction and down and I needed that time because grip let's list really you know let's think about it. The real work doesn't start until we see that treatment center now. Darrel yeah you're in the real world an ET do you have to do the work you know week one of the things at least we talked about in the past on this show is a dry drunk. And that is somebody who just stops drinking but they really did not do the work. And I didn't do the work they didn't do the service they didn't do the self reflection and really try to make things. I'm better in their lives so they had the same personality basically they had the same anger in the Shiites. And you can't get more yes. Thurmond the ball yeah you know we got back now what comes recovery yet and won't do me recovery the gist of why he liked. I don't like I'm proud parents you know and I you know any I in here like I. I am not happy ending half hour right. I won't I appreciate everything. You do have to. I eat out it kind debate. You know that is why I must say why is that is the hard thing to me with parents you know but they want them to come home. No because traders are real people like that think they preach I think I don't think I'm hearing at which you know it terrorists. Evaluate interest. Q you made a point that while you were intrigued when you starred in Carson a counselor and start to clean house as I call it. That's exactly right and you started dog is inside you that you and stuff for so long. L employee ran a treatment program. But correct when you come home you've come back to wherever it is you're going to go. That has to continue the damn right I'd be in recovery nineteen years. And I know how to do I still have to clean house on a daily basis. Yeah I have typically people around me my support group that know everything about me. I have to keep telling them that because the prices are cheaper secrets I'm gonna get sick again. Or particular bridge and won't come adapt to your body thanks. Arched stone recovery center of the palm beaches provides addiction treatment senator within a small personal community kind. For nearly two decades arch tone has helped thousands suffering from alcohol and chemical dependency is. Recover and regain control of their lives are stones medical. Clinical and support staff. Provide the highest level. A professional treatment and individualized care color storm recovery center 8558992292. Jason met the only Izzy personally injury and criminal defense lawyer prepared to fight for you. Attorney met he only has an exceptional record of defending the rights of those arrested for do you lie in drug offenses. He also represents victims of tractor trailer an automobile accidents. Premises liability product defects and work related accidents. If you are a loved one has been arrested or injured call attorney Mehdi only at 5709611616. Serenity lunches in safe structured supervise sober living community. Three young men located in the beautiful mountains of Susquehanna county Pennsylvania. Serenity lodge has perfected. The missing peace between addiction treatment and real life serenity lodged teaches how to use the principles of recovery along with age appropriate life skills. Cause serenity lunch today at 5706508205. Since 1972. Olympic treatment center has been providing successful treatment for those suffering from substance abuse clear Brooks medical program provides round the clock care and treatment. From a licensed and specialized medical team there breaks approach to addiction is largely based on the proven practices of alcoholics anonymous and has storage services are available to patients seeking spiritual guidance. Call Claybrook today at 5702602600. This is double BYAO gave powered by Sherwood Chevrolet Buick GM CE online at Sherwood Chevrolet dot com. Welcome back to sharing recovery straight talk once and he struggles of addiction and triumphs of recovery. Recovery is possible we welcome your calls for questions or come. All 570830098. Or 180437009. And eight and you're euros as Suzanne Kelly and Jack problem. And welcome back to hearing recovery our guest today is Pamela night. Pamela is actually calling in from Maryland con she's sharing her journey. Her mission and she's the founder of stigma kills I'm curious Pamela. How are the people in your development now I mean to the people who are friends. Before they knew you were fanatics. Are they your friend Sam did anybody kind of come back into the fold. Are they too low hooked and hooked on a stigma. When you know it's funny is. I knew that I wanted to be open and honest it is billing it all angry way I can make sense. You know my journey with you to take my pain and turned to purpose I need now are there are people that you know. I do I don't make it with Eddie Moore and broke your arm around Mac what I am very young man had found a body you know most of my. Relationship that people now are just. There's so much stronger. And their breed altogether real and but it's taking time I mean you know it's hard really for people left and understand. It. I think if they talk about a week a dark what we're doing right now trying to educate people on it that's. I'm so we do we copper casino and we can reenter back into society or productive member we are great people. I'm begin at the people let's go baby you're the Ed do you look at me right you know they don't charge me or they just don't care to really talk to me you and that's okay. And that's OK and you know what we've got a friend that takes time. You know. We were gone by rebuilding. Our lives. And I have to look in the mirror every day and know that the day before I did everything I could to make life better. As opposed to what I did before I looked in the mirror and I only saw about myself. Because we're clearly in addition we're the most selfish people we can you'll ever meet. How are you as we work on and older recovery are recovering life. We look in the mirror and our first thoughts in me what can I do it helps someone else today. It sure remembering what can I do for me. So mad though right you can hope for Florida. And you didn't you went to a sober program. You do 99 me. Now what did what was next I mean did you start going to meetings recovery meetings of some sort. Forget I was out I am down on the stand in the oval won't perform aren't. And I came back and he lied because that you scored generated start and how I we will have to work your jobs. Wow I he I would have a job we can make within minutes all that done I really didn't think it right it at a place that we act because. If there are people making remarks from they brought by British PG AMP you have to get people to get it now any batter and by principle called me and he said. You know how he how are you the you know we know she went. And so I could position. I think it probably I don't know probably ten thank you agree with rich yeah I understand it people uncomfortable coming back and I thought about it that you know I am gonna go back I went that high school I had a lot of hi there I love that school. And I said that I would come back and he actually come up the next morning anxious and very that would really iPad for me because. I live five minutes from the school and everything went in my head Mike. Can't say anything our own that in their break and that kind of found there are eight and alcoholic was is that drops right yeah. But I told you the truth and he was. Toward and became my biggest thing and you know I look at this cool maybe one month so it's like maybe she and September and teacher came up can mean that. My god and he can't she come from company university. I don't even recognized as she got dirty she's that she's back seat from Procter and at night and I I think gaffe I know what I was scared to death. And I walked up that they are but you are badgering me you know my god my heart is aching I the issue within. You could trawling and that is where I learned the magic. A recovery panic it's something I think she would you hope you know she opened have to be because. I shared my journey and I got her to treatments. And all through the year that went on a starting to get mean you know interventions and what I knew what I. It took topping my sobriety. Getting back eighteen and felt so but I felt. I don't really only back in school for a year and toward an eerie you know I was thinking plumes may be good enough. You know what I and my calling and then I'd been told that give me now is that right thinking idea of the different calling it calling you help. So many people here and we get a PowerPoint caught anything big and I did it and and the first time I. Really prevented me and let me tell you let a deep public thinking. I'm look at all but could it actually and I had they were a teacher in that crowd that I won't have an. I think he can so you know I narrowly professional relationship with them but. It was beautiful like your home that night and I think twelve email so different faculty member at my brother my sister my all. We'd open at alliance communications. You know what and all but I think that that is that if there's a recurring seamen and if this happens every week with our guests and and the people that you help once she said. You know I'm recovering addict and I can help others people started to open up TO and there's there's no one's saying that that is is so true is. Addiction is everywhere and I'm willing to bet everyone at this point. Knows an addict when did they know it kind. Jane I think oh yeah. Yeah I did because that's where we're at. In our country he and so. And we have very worrying recovery we can I have dark you cannot drag I can't have that darkness so. He's an aid in good acting as you know dead I think they've ever been taught you how she should be honored to be accountable the party be accountable because. Yeah one more act in addition. I had thought about me me a lot all right what do you think that he later I change society becomes sort of and certified journeyman just and I don't think he's gonna go march. I want they got our money that Maryland it was going on and I want me and I never I never imagined it. I need be grab act out like I love what I'm doing. And you know what I tell and I began you know as I get cleared he is the one person fracture that they don't go down the path there is still worth it in now. And so that she in my progression I started they were killed just more like it was a waste and I need cataract. Express might yelling yeah I'm not really digging out that you know are made out at a hundred get a people. But it's quality wood and I got messages from people in light. I agree and I mean you know my brother is so bad what can I do you know. It takes a lot or some of the private matter if some of them they thought and out with you know and I how. Been successful in getting people from like Arkansas people where I'm like texting calling for eight I mean it's so hard because I'm not very you know Rite Aid that they. You know getting into treatment though. I think wet there's nothing. Better than what if I can't catch Obama in their life should you know payment and I I just picked up my nine month shipped you think my life. It's no money in the world Beckett for you that feeling back we're at that. So well. And stem cell. Precisely it besides that besides the fact that you're helping those people that way what do you do for yourself everyday and you still participate in the program. I'd go out. Gail I Garrett you know I buried like all right with my meeting say you know I have my little paper handy like except what what means that while there is about the only have a fat. But that's already. That the important thing he brought out I'm. In the beginning I was getting way out of bounds. Because I was gagging and with everything on me and I wasn't getting I had you remember that my recovery have become personal I had a year over. And maybe they don't act and I don't think flight. I can be here now a lot like I don't know I had all these links emotional. And I thought he found me. CNET T right out how hard it people product even before I was GA member. It's still a baby events you have one you're sober. Verses because. Fourteen years and he thing. And that really hit home to mean she's right like I can't think I got this because. Our did he think maturity you know we'd have to. Make sure they were imbalance and we have to like you like your fake meat if you keep. The digging and getting in getting you have to give up back in. And they sort of the you are. Yeah it's still pretty yearly cap. Refer to and you have to renew your commitment to yourself every day you know you get nothing half so whether it's reading the literature orange. Reading one page of of a book that you have right now I am yes. Every day you make that commitment. All. Powerful. So she can why in my recovery world. That's what has to meet on a daily basis I've got I've got three items that. I have to wake up and tell somebody the truth about what goes on. When I got to trust the higher power. Not because I didn't do this you know I drink. Four from eight years old to 41 years old. I walked in a meeting one day and I haven't had a drink since. Well that isn't that wasn't me that have come from someplace else because I loved every drink ever asked. So are higher power. First reached out. And I was willing to accept what he was offering Hershey was offering this higher power made up our road to recovery and that's offered to everyone. Everybody's offering the same thing not everybody can reach out grass that. And then after I know I develop a really to a higher power. And then I had a realized that I bear I've got to start helping other people. And and that's that's where this show came from my mean you know yes I worked in the recovery industry with. But I I realize that we've got to spread this message as far as we can and helping others. But I still have to put my recovery first every single day of the week one then I'm Barton won the time I've got to wake up. I've got to figure out the first thing I say to myself there's worm are going to say what meeting in my going to react. That's the first thing I gotta do and I got a call somebody every morning and I call the same person just about every morning and saying. Yesterday I had some bumps and it. And I got through them but how we get through today. I have a friend and recovery says I like lights to be like lasagna. Hills sign in new rules go up a little bit and come back down and go up a little bit and come back. Not not highs and lows just going across so well designed your numeral. That mania the you know I act or some so damn this is. This got us to hear. And what this past week I think you share earnings were you worried this past week I mean. Origin erupt we take a break recorder would. I'd like you did tell us about where you were this past week I know where you were what you were doing but I'd like you tell the audience because. I want people lawyers and you go anywhere I mean we're worried this weekend. In Michigan are getting hit again calling on. I wouldn't fight all right so speaking for the student and you know it's funny the current antibiotic that the defense bought he are gonna talk but anyone open it up. And she got really dark. And say boy why I did hand out index card and make it right question won't like what does that you know. I'm trying to open up a lot of the communication you out and the frontrunner raped her he had a first. I'm the first primary school are at their feet but give me I am saying that for the first time. My point there. I've seen her nightstand and my sister went street and she even though Vermont and so proud of my sister and like all the kids started coughing. From our staff and she can't care coming down right but you know what these these teenagers they have questions. And eighth you have to get there we have to be written about that. In order to help that right because. They're stuck you know whether it's on aiming member or is it if they're dealing with that our friend and it takes it for me I think some are starved for our fifteen year old or sixteen or to wait afterwards. To meet me but they don't really even know me. Because that's the desperation. And he's just you're talking to him tell hype all but ninth through twelfth. I'm. And I give up PowerPoint is to try it caught on any indicator in the medal I album you know damage our guys I'm a recovering drug. As every story. And it moving any means he just came up to me but yeah I never. I I understand I understand it now and he can how can happen to anybody. And if so what have happened if we're gonna start so it's safe climbed slightly actually be able to talk about the but what I find is that after that every period I had. For kids wait I can't wait for about wind I have five minutes literally hit my phone number being out we got me he's. They need our young adults need mentors and that's what I would I called an influx. I don't somebody. Know you could track me and help them are going to not come up with a plan a call me that I'm not gonna be and I'm leaving on Sunday sort of a thank. And when you know Asia having young young kids. Reach out so I have to you know I actually got. A mother she treatment is that there's garlic adamant that her mother was gonna get help. She went through her part she found me in front porch she gave me all the into making it all the late work. And then I Thursday afternoon they had intervention and got a lot of planes. You know and she's getting hopefully get and how that she needs I'm but it's a lot can happen if we start talking about it. Well how else. They call it truly is an and the other part of this story it's amazing is that every school we orient every time you spoke. There was somebody in mass school. Tell us probably in the same position you were when you were in schools whether it's. A teacher cafeteria worker or janitor a principal somebody there was hot. Somebody airway was waiting to get out of the can never run out of their car or your back to their locker. To slip another pill or take another simple whiskey. So that's. 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Welcome back to sharing recovery straight talk once and he struggles on addiction and triumphs of recovery. Recovery is possible we welcome your calls for questions or come. All 570830098. Or 180437009. And Angel you're euros as Suzanne Kelly and Jack problem. And welcome back to share in recovery we have a few minutes less and Pamela we wanted to ask you how was your son doing today. Hello Pam. Out there you are OK we lost you for a moment we are wondering if you could tell us how you son is doing today. He's doing great eat hot here at the January. What they Mac you know it was. Three treatments that hasn't she cares. And every time I would let him I I let him come from DC what they're ready the five. Try my he's stating that that our own free air content resigning from where we would let him come home for weekend but that was that. Because the the every generation and they did try to get right back with girlfriends assets and that is that he now. How old is your I am importing borne out. My daughter has my daughter's 26. And she went through to a treatment programs and then spend doesn't seven months in a program remains. And and today actually show left two years in February. And she's doing fabulous. How action but that European when they told me that the one that treatment centers said to my wife and I bit. She needs to go somewhere for an extended period of time. Even though I do this every day and I talk to families every day and I may suggestions every day when I was my child. My reaction was negative that great I couldn't I couldn't see what it was my own child that. The things I tell their parents made sense amendment to may have made no sense. And they say to me how hard she needs to go told programming and it's in Maine and here's what we think. And she. She didn't she went to Maine. That's you spent seven months there and it changed her life. Because something there she got something inept program that I that I couldn't offer her that look the local people could look for. Somehow. Everybody recovery is different. And then my daughter found that. Away from here away from home. Right at 58 because once again like and then you know I mean how it is it is. It's people places and things and it's kind sell really I mean at security just the important. As the treatment itself. I'm impact but. Take place it is a long journey and Garrett and apparent right we do want them back now the red meat. It is so hard when you did your job like that there would someday I wanted to take them like. But you know why he conducted by I even he had you want it. I began that is like he said that's exactly right as a parent it's you know option is it pop it even eight each speak the language every day but when it comes to your charted the it is different you know. And the other is there is that confusion in the in the world recovery that people think all I said my child through treatment programs they're they're 28 days there are all better. And that that's not the case there are components. And the 48 days in detox did the initial. Introduction the recovery. Occurs in that 28 days. But right now we come home from those programs we can hope for treatment center now we have to face life again. And we chatted face a life without support. You know I have a broken ankle in Milwaukee for the crunch. And I don't mean that in a negative way I mean that's a helper. So right. A recovery program and in my case it's a twelve step program. From up that I need to participate in that and so does my daughter and so does anyone else who wants to get better. Are there other ways you know hasn't beaten a distant debate and social media today that I risk is that twelve step program can only wait and recover no it's not. Everybody's throats recovery is different. My case it isn't twelve step program. And and I'm OK what's that I want everybody to recover if you another way to go and terrific. But I think race is the right way you know right. Yeah there have been arena in me you know like the whole of 1990 Larry and it there are out. There are they apparently. You know even in hard but let me play let. Everytime I go and some would there's something that I needed here at that march. They knew how are going very and they did downfall over the plate finish and I think you know lacked any that are remembered they just keep coming back. And you Q and then backed restart it really. Embracing what it is an and and learning for a learning you know on the AM that can get this story even people that have more time it's. For once I taking directions so you don't like being out and following through with that cell. I went I went to my first meeting. And I went home from that meeting and I called does someone that and I said look. I want to twelve step meeting but I don't belong there. And I saw it around narrow when I saw people. I didn't fit in with I said I'm not like that one or I'm not like current. That guy's a drug dealer and this girl had a up pretty crazy history and the person I said that to. Didn't have much to say other than keep going to meet until you do tritium. Like fashion and it shouldn't and it took me a long time to understand. That. That was exactly right. I had to keep going 2212 step meetings until I didn't fit in because I am just like everybody else. There is no model of recovery for one person. There there's everybody out there are doctors lawyers Indian she's school teachers. Mason's people who are unemployed doesn't everybody in my recovery and were all identical where they're for the same reason. Because we cannot recover on our own. The great thing about Barney I came through and make you think or act I arrived really late at night the mining technique like the dining hall. And that tactic mean and I remember I looked around and then February you know are they need to make a phone I don't think I'm along eerie how high. But you know why. I really I mean I don't think that we needed guidance. The almighty judge I don't know that story late she thought it could be at what they mean you really great that EUK. Kind of look with some of the story. It out yeah I understand why. They Talladega you know why they're here. It that they thought that that's our job to Jack encourage our kids our job to help people. You know. And that is and that is ultimately how we recover. But I tell you there is stopping here ourselves. As think about others. There are so many ways. You know there are people listening that now saying well I don't have that education to help others are I don't have the knowledge to help others are I don't. Stop would be I don't so maybe it's just holding a door open for somebody maybe it's just give us somebody are writing to a meeting. Or somebody perfect she their cup of coffee because her hand shaking so bad they can't do that. You don't have it you don't have to be Einstein you don't have to meet any implementing special everybody can help everybody we can all help each other. In the smallest in simplest ways. A free car. Trying to thing is you don't have to spend a lot of money to do it I mean it's just basically looking beyond yourself but. Also keeping in mind that helping others is important when you help yourself as well because she's got to push yourself first or even spiral backward. You know you've got to self care. So what do you got coming up in the future now Pam to share with us. What are you know I. I Intermec I I made a while back he would act video called. They the recovery and everything I did what he felt like. I wanted to do an excellent yes. Oh god we are now it's time Pamela thank you so so you know I'm yeah. Thank you can't determine things you we want to think Clayburgh treatments.
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